Race: In Black and White

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This is a good question. I have wondered that myself in terms of my grandmother. She would always say, as an American Southerner from Mississippi, that the law stated if you have 1 drop of black blood you were black. Personally, I don't know why one would ignore one side and not claim the other. But that is society always trying to put someone in a box.
Well, I don't know if this is really an answer -- it doesn't explain why -- but for years, maybe since as long as census (what IS the plural of that word?) existed, the child was deemed the race of the father and the religion of the mother. I understand that it makes no sense, however. My niece is as fair-skinned as you can get with Debra Messing-red hair and blue eyes, and yet because her father is Hispanic, she's considered Hispanic. No sense at all. Sorry that this doesn't really answer your question at all!
interesting question. i believe that Louisiana still has it's "one drop" law, that basically states if you have one drop of black blood that makes you black. i really do believe that you should accept all parts of oneself. i am half puerto rican and half korean. i always say i'm both, i can't choose one or the other tho i do relate more to the puerto rican heritage i think that a lot of is has to do with the way a person looks. white kind of blends with everything. half white half asian you kind of look more asian. half white half black you kind of look more black. so you identify with what you look like. it's funny, i call myself asian, when i mention what i am, perhaps because i actually look asian. but i call myself puerto rican too. i don't really identify with the korean part of me. that side of my family isn't very big on Pride. whereas i was taught all my life about the culture, struggles, and beauty of being puerto rican. but i look asian (actually i always say i have a korean head but a puerto rican body), so what does that make me? people on the mainland always think i'm hawaiian anyway, even tho if you know what hawaiians look like i don't look hawaiian at all (but that's a whole nother ball of wax).

whew i've talked too much. i would also like to add a bit about acceptance from your racial group. half and halfers like me aren't accepted by either side for the most part. not asian enough to "truly" understand asian culture. don't look hispanic therefore hispanic kids at school didn't care to hang out with me, which hurt a bit because it's the side i identify with more. i was actually friends with the white and black kids at school. so i guess whatever race you look like is the one that you can assimilate into, so you choose to identify with it. "i look black, so i'm black and other black people won't realize that i'm not ALL black" that might have something to do with it.

i hope that was at all helpful.

It's a tricky question. I have experienced this issue from both sides of the coin. Both being different and not being different. I was born in Singapore and had to take my mother's nationality at birth(Australian). It's their way of controlling the population I think.

My indian relatives consider me as white or diluted. Although I have taken on alot of body and facial characteristics from my father. The last time I saw my father is joked that I was 90 % indian and 10 % german lol. I guess that was his way of saying he was proud of the way I turned out.

My friends consider me something exotic and yet I still experience some racism at work due to my very long and indian sounding name. I had a lady at once tell me to change my name. I won't because it is who I am and I am proud to be Australian and be mixed. I have inherited good aspects of both cultures and contribute positively to Australian society. I personally don't see colour or religion.

From a German perspective, I remember getting onto a train once and having these old ladies slam the door in my face and screaming auslander, auslander or foreigner, foreigner. My mother was furious and said " you should be ashamed she's just a german as you two". I didn't realise that I was different until point (I'm not even that dark) The ticket conducter told them that they should be ashamed and they opened the doors again. I guess it was a hang over from the world war two days where being different meant death for many people. They had not evolved.

From an Australian perspective, if you have 1 % indigenous blood on your mother's side you are Indigenous. Even if you are blonde, white and blue eyed.

I used to work with some Indigenous people who were lighter than me and had polynesian and half asian work mates and we used to joke that we were never going to be the right shade of brown.

I understood that they wanted to look after their own (and so they should they went through alot to be recognised as Australian) but we did our work and contributed just as much as they did and yet were made to feel that race mattered.

But on the other side of the coin, during this time I also met some people that had a great sense of community and gave me a sense of belonging. They were wonderful. Categorising someone is both good and bad. It can either give you a sense of belonging or alienate you.

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It is probably the after-effect of a long painful period of racism where White skin was considered superior and therefore any 'dilution' rendered the person of mixed race inferior as a result of dilution.

It's not something to take too seriously now because even if we still unconsciously follow that protocol when labeling a person white or black or brown, we aren't being racist.
It's like the fact that we still refer to the human race as "Mankind" like women somehow don't count - we know it is absurd but we continue to use the word because we know what the employment of that word implies now - nothing misogynistic about it.

If I was to put on my idealist hat :), I would say what you and I should be concerned about is that we still unconsciously feel the need to classify people by skin or race! If we could somehow stop doing that, this question would be moot.

Amazing comments :)

I think that the thing that gives me the most hope for the future, is that we will be so "mixed" that there won't be any way to tell race anymore. Perhaps in my children's age this will be a reality. One can only hope.
As Russel Peters (love the guy) says...in the future we will all be just...beige...hahahaha


I have a bit of a funny story to add. When my partner is at home in New Zealand. The maoris think he is one of them (which he and I think is pretty cool). He will walk down the road and people give him the acknowledging head flick and the obligatory "Kia ora bro". lol. he's actually half white half filipino. It's kind of nice to be welcomed in that way. He has never experienced categorisation.

I love Russell Peters too... that guy is a riot!

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